Bobbin is joined by our Investigative Research Associate, Justin Low, who was behind our recently published reports on  Crime and Safety in Oregon in 2022: Myths, Facts, and Solutions and  ODOC: Agency in Crisis. Bobbin and Justin unpack why it's important for elected officials and media outlets to be driven by data, not fear-mongering tough-on-crime rhetoric that is not based in research. They talk about the correlation between police budgets and crime rates (hint: there is none!). Justin talks about what he has learned in his research on ODOC and the 436 media reports on civil right violations and concerning issues raised that the agency is responsible for. Read our reports here: https://ojrc.info/reports