Is cargo ship traveling better than boarding a cruise ship? Travel Devil host Clara talked to Joris, he traveled the Atlantic Ocean as a passenger on a container ship. After that life-changing experience, he started his own travel agency CptnZeppos. In this episode, Joris shares everything you need to know about being a passenger on a cargo ship. I promise you will feel good, inspired, and laugh during this episode.  Want to watch the podcast-related video? Go to https://youtu.be/vJIZgIryJes Suggestions for future guests? Dm me on instagram.com/clarafrancken Want to watch my videos? Go to YouTube.com/clarafrancken