This episode describes the historic train ride from Kasese to Kampala in Uganda. We meet two young lads that show us their bullet wounds on their bodies and I reflect on the crazy history of Uganda, especially the far-reaching repercussions from the Idi Armin era.  We meet the overland truck again in Kampala then travel down to Lake Victoria for a trip over to Sese Islands. These islands were beautiful and not much tourism development at the time. I was worried about my cut toe in the water, where they often gutted fish, but I was carried to the boat.  Watching the fishermen for a day on the shore of Lake Victoria made me realise just how much Nile Perch was being caught and loaded onto refrigerated trucks waiting nearby. The fishermen kept coming ALL day with their catch of fingerlings, to mostly ~30-40 cms (12 - 16 inches) in length, but a few times a huge fish, greater than one metre, were hauled in. I began to be concerned that there did not seem to be any thought as to the sustainability of the Nile Perch population. The sheer volume of fish on the shore was staggering. All sizes were being caught and processed and this was just a snapshot in time with me sitting on the beach that day. I assumed this was a daily practice. I mentioned it to the fishermen and they got angry at me. I found out later overfishing in Lake Victoria became a major issue with a number of species declining. The number of fishing boast rose from around 10, 000 in the 1980s to over 60, 000 at the start of the millennium, and fish factories had increased significantly as well. Illegal fishing was also rampant. Eventually authorities from Uganda, Tanzania and Kenya had to step in and control the situation, but it was many years before this happened. The image of this day stuck in my mind and eventually led me back to Australia and university to eventually work as an ecologist. The overfishing, the destruction of forests with the daily search for fuelwood and clearing for crops that also leads to erosion. This is evident in many of the African countries I visited. It was seeing the effects on no conservation effort in Uganda (from the violent history and exploitation of its natural resources) that inspired me to become knowledgeable in the topic so I could influence others in sustainable practice with natural resources that are all finite in quantity.  Cover: Large Nile perch being carried by a fisherman. (Source - Nation Media Group) --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/justine-murray0/message