SPONSORS: This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/julian and get on your way to being your best self. (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Jesse Michels is a Venture Capitalist, YouTuber, & UFO / Esoterica Historian & Journalist. Currently, Jesse invests for Silicon Valley Magnate, Peter Thiel. He also hosts a show on YouTube called “American Alchemy,” where he has interviewed Jacques Vallee, Hal Puthoff, Eric Weinstein, Danny Sheehan, Graham Hancock, James Fox –– and many more notable individuals. EPISODE LINKS - PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey    - MERCH: https://juliandorey.myshopify.com/   - AMAZON STORE: https://amzn.to/3RPu952   GUEST LINKS - YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@JesseMichels  - X: https://x.com/AlchemyAmerican  - IG: https://www.instagram.com/jessemichels/?hl=en  FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/   INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/   X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey  JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips    - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily    - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP    Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “JULIANDOREY”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier ****TIMESTAMPS**** 0:00 - Sliding into Peter Thiel’s DMs 10:20 - Why Jesse started a Physics, UFOlogy & Esoteric Channel 13:59 - Jesse sees a UFO (story) 17:58 - When Jesse first got into UFOs; Diana Walsh Pasulka 22:55 - Can Aliens Simulate us viewing them? 28:20 - Aliens, Religion, Gnosticism, Jesus & God 33:40 - The Knights Templar 38:54 - Alien “Holy Wars” & The Bible; Diana Pasulka on UFO & God Connection 47:30 - The Vatican, Science, Religion, Multiverse & UFOs 54:56 - The Vatican Bank; Attitudes & Religion 58:27 - Jacques Vallee 1:01:49 - Vallee, Garry Nolan, Hal Puthoff & UFO Crash Retrieval Evidence 1:11:18 - Garry Nolan’s Basal Ganglia Work 1:14:12 - UFOs relation to time, space & gray aliens (future humans) 1:19:37 - Michio Kaku’s time travel theory 1:21:49 - UFOs, Nuclear Bases & the future humans argument 1:27:22 - Gravity, Time Dilation & General Relativity 1:33:09 - Eric Weinstein, String Theory & Physics Ivory Towers 1:42:00 - UAP Psyops 1:43:22 - The Manhattan Project, Oppenheimer & UFOs Connection 1:51:26 - 1971 Australian Intel Atomic Detonation Doc; Anti-Gravity Research History 1:57:38 - Oppenheimer’s alleged UFO Crash Investigation 1:59:32 - Simulating how humanity would respond to disclosure 2:06:57 - UFO Psyops; Lue Elizondo 2:18:58 - UAP stories & National Security; Thomas Townsend Brown; Joby Warrick 2:35:34 - David Grusch & how Jesse earned his trust years ago 2:45:39 - Compartmentalization of Intel on UAP Disclosure; Robert Sarbacher 2:52:03 - David Grusch’s full background review 2:54:51 - Grusch & the Psyop Squirrel Theory 3:03:21 - How Jesse changed Eric Weinstein’s mind on UFO Phenomenon 3:07:33 - DARPA Weapons vs. Aliens Theory 3:09:50 - German Nazi Super-Weapons & Operation Paperclip 3:22:31 - Danny Sheehan & Every American Conspiracy Ever 3:28:02 - Jesse coming back CREDITS: - Host, Producer, and Editor: Julian Dorey - In-Studio Producer: Alessi Allaman - https://www.instagram.com/allaman.docyou/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 240 - Jesse Michels Music by Artlist.io