Tricky is the place to discuss difficult questions away from the bear pit of social media. Musician Ransom FA, visual artist Sekai Machache, writer Vanessa Kisuule and David Chukwujekwu from Intercultural Youth Scotland discuss where Black Lives Matter goes from here. The needless death of George Floyd seemed to signal a new phase for those campaigning to end racism both in the US and here in the UK. As a hashtag and a slogan Black lives Matter is the latest in a long succession of rallying cries but have recent events marked a tipping point. Our panel use their own experiences of racism to explore this crucial question and give their thoughts on how to keep up the momentum that's come at such a high cost. Producers: Myles Bonnar and Peter McManus Editor: Anthony Browne A BBC Scotland production for Radio 4