Ari sits down with WIRED magazine’s Andy Greenberg and TRM’s Chris Janczewski, a former IRS-CI agent and the protagonist of Andy’s book Tracer’s in the Dark, to discuss how Chris and other investigators track and trace crypto to build investigations and hunt illicit actors on the blockchain. Today’s Guests Andy Greenberg, Senior Writer, WIRED magazine Chris Janczewski, Head of Global Investigations, TRM Labs Host: Ari Rebord, Global Head of Policy, TRM Labs Resources TRM Insights: Tracers in the Dark: An Inside Look into Cracking Crypto's Biggest Cases TRM Insights: North Korean Hackers Stole $600 Million in Crypto in 2023 TRM Insights: Hack Hauls Halve From 2022 TRM Insights: CFTC’s Technology Advisory Committee Releases Report On Opportunities and Risks In DeFi TRM Talks: Investigating and Prosecuting a Crypto Case CFTC Technology Advisory Committee - Report on Decentralized Finance About Chris Janczewski About Andy Greenberg Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency by Andy Greenberg