Without the blue there is no green... Join our host Bea Karanja, as she dives into marine conservation with Tusk's project partners Camilla, from Africa Foundation, and Hoby, from C3 Madagascar. Find out why we can still be hopeful for the future of marine conservation, despite the threats facing our oceans, and the concerns over a 20-step skincare trend in this episode and more! Useful links: Find out more about Camilla's work at &Beyond here: https://www.oceanswb.org/ ---- Keep up to date with our latest conservation and project news on our website tusk.org and follow us on all social media!