The following is my conversation with Thomas Vernon. Tom is a regular contributor musically to the UAP Files as well as a co-host on the this podcast. With a music background and a history in hospitality, Tom switches between living in the UK and Spain.  Tom has a keen interest in the esoteric, particularly the field of consciousness and spirituality, and its connection to the UAP field and science as a whole. Tom is my friend and has helped me massively along the way with the UAP Files as well as setting up our Discord, running it and engaging with our community on Discord, for which I am hugely appreciative.