The following is a conversation with Julian Marti Carnero. Julian is a screenwriter and director, who has worked in tv, advertising and tech. Julian and I have been talking behind the scenes for some time now and recently Julian made me aware of the following case of the Merchant Ship San Matias, where a number of sailers observed orbs balls of light coming from the ocean near their vessels and shot off in different directions. Witnessed by people from different ships and reported to the authorities. Julian raised this case with me after fresh FOIA returns evidencing the witness testimony. However, whilst we discuss the case, we also discuss a whole lot more - childhood fascination in UFO/UAP, profound films on the subject, how we approach the subject with our kids, my mum throwing away the best part of £10,000 worth of collectable basket ball cards (i’m not bitter), how UFOs or OVNIs are discussed in Argentina and other areas outside of the USA, as well as Julian’s own UFO sightings. A fun and interesting conversation with a man deeply fascinated in the subject and a deep thinker. #uapfilespodcast #uapfiles #jumianmarti #julianmarticarnero #sanmatias #orb #orbs #orbufo #ufowitness #uapnews #ufonews #ufo #uap