“I recently heard Van say something along the lines of “the haters are so loud - the lovers need to be louder”, and “we are so focused now on kicking people out, we need to shift our focus to bringing people in”.
Van is a brilliant, calming and optimistic voice who acknowledges issues, but within a framework of hopefulness. Uplifting, and exactly the kind of energy and rallying we need.”
TLI10 via Apple Podcasts ·
Canada ·
01/23/22