Episode six is with former CIA Deputy Director of Operations (DDO) Dave Marlowe.  At the time of this recording, Dave had just given up the DDO reins and was preparing to retire after 32 years at CIA.  During his career, which began in the Army during the Cold War, Dave served in some of CIA's most important roles including as the CIA Assistant Director for the Near East Mission Center, Chief of Station Kabul, Chief of one of CIA's largest Stations in Europe, and across positions in the Counterterrorism Center. We spoke about the future of human intelligence (HUMINT), leadership, bureaucracies, and the culture at CIA.  UnderSimplified Home: https://www.undersimplified.org/ UnderSimplified Music by:  Arethusa Strings Exclusive Sponsor 2430 Group:  2430Group.org ****Ways to support this podcast**** Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/undersimplified Venmo: @UnderSimplified PayPal: paypal.me/UnderSimplified GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/3d1b01b4 UnderSimplified Home: https://www.undersimplified.org/ UnderSimplified on Twitter: @undersimplified UnderSimplified on Instagram: undersimplified_podcast