In this episode, we talk with Raven Drake, manager of the Streets Roots Ambassador Program. The program builds on the talents and expertise of people on the streets to do public health outreach, surveys, and training while also helping participants build skills, make professional connections, and earn additional income. Drake also helped create C3PO, a collection of three alternative shelter communities built during the pandemic. She talks about why self determination is key when it comes to creating these spaces, and why efforts to create camps without it will fall short. She also shares her personal journey and how even on the darkest of days, there is a pathway forward.