In this episode Damian talks to Cindy Gallop who is the self-proclaimed Michael Bay of business as she “likes to blow shit up”. Cindy was born in the UK, lived much of her childhood in Brunei, Borneo, and returned to the UK for university education in Oxford. She has lived in New York for the last 23 years and here we talk to her about one of her ventures, Make Love Not Porn, of which she is the founder and CEO.  Make Love Not Porn is the world's first user-generated, human-curated social sex platform. It is real world sex, and definitely not porn. However, they are Pro Sex, Pro Porn and Pro knowing the difference! Damian's chat includes talking about how this platform is different to porn, the restrictions of promoting a business in this sector and the benefits of having a platform like this in society. This then leads to talking about representation of disabled people in porn and how videos of real world sex can rectify that. We hope you enjoy this podcast as much as we do!