Welcome to the second episode of season five! In this episode we talk with Cardozie Jones, founder and CEO of True North EDI.    🧶Key Takeaways:   Interdependence is a key concept in diversity, equity, and inclusion work, emphasizing the reliance and balance between individuals and communities. Theater provides a powerful example of interdependence, where all parts work together to create a cohesive experience. Giving ourselves and others grace and space to grow and make mistakes is essential for personal and collective growth. A joyful orientation in DEI work involves focusing on direction, wholeness, and complexity, and recognizing the importance of building towards a future we have not yet seen.   🔗 Resources Learn more about True North EDI and Cardozie Jones: https://truenorthedi.com/   Follow along with Katbot and Kathleen as they document their thoughts on change management. 🤖 Katbot's questions for further conversation 🤖 What would it look like for your organization to embrace interdependence, where each person’s success is tied to the collective?    Think about how you can create a culture that values mutual reliance and shared responsibility, rather than focusing only on individual inclusion. What structures or hidden norms in your environment may be silently limiting growth and equity, and how can you begin to challenge them?    Reflect on the systems that shape behavior in your workplace or community, and ask yourself: What needs to be made visible to foster true change? How might you approach difficult conversations or change efforts with a spirit of joy and possibility, even when the work feels heavy?    Consider how bringing lightness, even in serious moments, can help your team carry the load together and move forward with purpose.