As Democrats weigh up what to do about Joe Biden, Yonit and Jonathan talk to New York Times columnist and podcaster Ezra Klein, who back in February became the most prominent US journalist to argue that Biden was too old to seek re-election. They discuss what Democrats should do now, as well as Klein’s recent reporting from Israel: how do liberal Jewish Americans like him now see the country – and themselves? Plus: the latest on the UK’s new government, Israel’s current government and France’s struggle to form a government. Plus: a bumper crop of mensch and chutzpah award nominees. -- Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unholypodcast/Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150578065793142 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.