This week, Dave speaks with Fredrik Ahlgren (@frahlg) from Sourceful, who are trying to use DePIN tokenomics incentives to create a global green-energy Virtual Power Plant. Green energy is going to be an increasingly important topic in the years ahead with the rise of both AI and global warming, and Fredrik feels that crypto token incentives are exactly what is needed to start onboarding the masses. We also touch on the future of energy, especially in a post-Superintelligence world. - - Episode Resources Follow Fredrik : https://Twitter.com/frahlg Follow Sourceful : https://Twitter.com/srcful - - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/salxyz Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Zen : https://twitter.com/ZenLlama Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod - - Time Stamps (0:00) - Fredrik’s Route From Academia To DePIN (7:56) - Issues With Existing Energy Systems (20:37) - Which Actions Do Sourceful Wish To Incentivize (28:40) - Advantages Over Centralized Competitors (31:10) - Business Models For Sourceful (35:26) - Token Demand Side (38:37) - GTM Strategy and Thinking About Regulations (44:23) - Will Nuclear Make Up A Large Part Of Future Energy Mix (49:38) - How Will AI Change Energy Consumption (55:36) - Will Energy Become A Digital Commodity Post AI Super-Intelligence (1:02:44) - Next Steps