Jack Shukman is the co-founder and CEO of The Way, a pioneering meditation app designed to lead users on a structured journey of awakening and self-discovery. Having spent a decade in the corporate world of investment banking and strategy consulting, Jack experienced firsthand the high-paced, high-stress environments of top-tier consulting firms. Motivated by a desire for deeper meaning and fulfillment, he transitioned out of the corporate sphere and into the world of meditation. Guided by his uncle, Henry Shukman, an esteemed Zen master and meditation teacher, Jack has began a deep journey of self-discovery into the nature of self, and the process of awakening. Together, they launched The Way with a mission to make the profound benefits of deep meditation practices accessible to everyone, regardless of their experience level. Jack's journey from the boardrooms of London to the serene spaces of meditation underscores the transformative power of mindfulness and the pursuit of awakening. With The Way, Jack and Henry aim to provide a supportive, accessible, and enriching experience for all who seek to explore the depths of their own consciousness. This is an epic conversation - quite deep into the process of meditation and awakening. For anyone curious about their place in this universe, this one’s for you.  Download The Way from Apple or Google Play stores, and check out more details here: www.thewayapp.com Your first 30 meditations are free - and I cannot recommend this app enough. TIMECODES 00:00 Introduction and Initial Greetings 08:27 Jack's Background and The Journey to Meditation 15:08 Corporate Life and Mental Health 25:26 Designing Life for Work-Life Balance 30:25 Meditation Insights and Practices 36:50 Zen Master Henry Shukman 48:21 Understanding the Self & Life Through Meditation 53:12 Is Bolivia Real? 55:11 Exploring Awakening 59:50 Introducing 'The Way'  01:01:25 The Vision Behind 'The Way' 01:04:59 Building 'The Way': A Structured Path to Awakening 01:06:21 Mike’s Love of ‘The Way’ 01:16:46 The Four Elements in Meditation 01:25:43 The Origin Story of ‘The Way’ 01:29:47 Final Thoughts and Gratitude