Skepticism about the future of the Vision Pro and brutal reviews of the Humane Ai Pin make us discuss misguided expectations and the power of the smartphone duopoly. We also attempt to decode reports of new M4 Mac chips.

Casey Liss joins Myke to discuss Apple's new Spatial Personas for visionOS, and their thoughts on an immersive experience from... Gucci? Also, emulators are coming to the App Store, and Myke wants to check Casey's vibe.

We often cite anonymous reports about Apple's future, but where do those reports come from? We discuss of the value and ethics of Apple rumor coverage. Also, we've seen the latest Vision Pro immersive video and have strong opinions.