Last month, world leaders gathered in Dubai for the UN Climate Change Conference – COP 28. The loss and damage agreement supporting nations impacted by climate change made headlines, but the walk back of language around fossil fuels was viewed by many as a step backwards. Was COP28 a net positive or negative? How relevant is COP anymore? Where should global efforts focus to mitigate climate change? United States Studies Centre (USSC) Non-Resident Fellow Lachlan Carey, Manager at RMI sat down with USSC Research Director Jared Mondschein to discuss COP28 and next steps for climate action in 2024. Subscribe to the USSC Briefing Room on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.   Produced by: Elliott Brennan