This week, ⁠Chase Van Etten⁠ & ⁠Daniel Keller⁠ talk with renowned internet culture chronicler, Katherine Dee (@default_friend). Katherine is known for her provocative commentary and insights into the psychology of internet subcultures. She has bylines in numerous publications including Tablet, Unherd and Compact and is host of the podcast The Computer Room. In this wide ranging conversation, we discuss algorithmic feedback loops, alt-internet history timelines, pre-singularity parenting, Katherine’s recent purchase of the Friend AI wearable, the coming rise of humanoid robots, auditioning for dark forest group chats, and different ways we can introduce some more healthy friction into our digital lives.  Artwork: Dante Gabriel Rosetti, “Pandora”, 1871