In this bumper edition of the Verso podcast we talk to authors Gracie Mae Bradley and Luke De Noronha about their new book Against Borders: The Case for Abolition. In it we explore what a world without borders might look like and the intricacies of imagining or advocating for that world. We then talk to Zehrah Hasan of JCWI about practical ways we can get involved in building a borderless world for today and tomorrow. Against Borders: The Case for Abolition is out now: https://www.versobooks.com/books/3983-against-borders?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=author-videos