Benjamin Windibank sits down for a virtual in-depth chat with Jaakko Oleander-Turja, who is the English Commentator for UMK (Finland's National Final) and works extensively on UMK's social media as well as throughout the preparations for Windows95man at the Eurovision Song Contest 2024. We discuss topics including commentating on UMK, the Finnish postcard for Eurovision 2024 (which Jaakko directed), the joint-artist statement calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, as well as Jaakko's own personal history with the Eurovision Song Contest over the years.