Are you the fish, the fisherman or the ocean? What is a thought and how much control do you have over your own thought-making process? The concept of mind, body and consciousness separation is a thread throughout all schools of philosophy and spirituality, both modern and ancient. This episode is essentially me unpacking my take on this thread through some silly analogies (drink every time I say fish and you will drown). What is thought when it is not organised by language? Does our concept of what thought is hinge too much on the connection between thought and language, that is, the intellectualisation of the abstract? What was thinking like for preliterate humans and what do babies and animals experience? WOULD WE BE FREE OF THE OVER-INTELLECTUALISATION OF EMOTION IF WE DID NOT HAVE LABELS FOR OUR FEELINGS TO BEGIN WITH? Surely cavemen weren't struggling to decipher whether they were experiencing platonic or romantic love and were just at the mercy of the experience itself. MUCH TO PONDER (if one can even conceptualise what it means to ponder).