Hey there, ladies! Welcome back to Water with Lemon and thanks for joining in on this week’s episode! This week, I get to sit down with my new friend, Lisa Brockman. We got to talk about her story of leaving Mormonism and finding the Biblical Jesus. Lisa shares with us about how she left the Mormon church and how she found and fell in love with the person of Jesus. I got to have such a deep conversation with Lisa and finding herself worthy in the One who loves and knows her. This conversation was so close to my heart because so much of my family is Mormon. It was so cool to hear about God transformed Lisa’s heart to surrender to God. However, we got to chat about how God is worthy of sacrificing everything and experiencing God on such an intentional level. We have a God that shows us grace and mercy even when we are coming back to the Father. I think that this episode really pulls that out. I’m so thankful that I got to talk with Lisa because seeing her testimony transforming her life was truly eye opening! Something that was talked about in the podcast was about shame and feeling the weight of it. We have a God that is fighting for you and that is for you. I think that we have to realize who Jesus is for us. This can help us fight for the ones who are lost and joining them in the journey because it’s not up to us. We need to engage in the conversation and meeting them where they are. I hope that you go check out Lisa’s book, Out of Zion to see more of her story and journey. I hope that this episode was helpful and fruitful to listen to.  Thank you for listening in today, I would love if you would share this episode with a friend and write a quick review and give the podcast a rating-it helps so much because of the iTunes algorithms. Here’s a little bit about Lisa! I'm a mother of five kids: 3 biological and 2 from Ethiopia, I've been on staff with Cru for 26 years, I'm an author, spiritual director, culinary artist:), love the beach, and have completed Renovaré Institute for Christian Spiritual Formation. Resources: Out of Zion by Lisa Brockman Beyond Mormonism by Jim Spencer All of Galatians Experiencing the Trinity by Darrell Johnson In the Shelter by Pádraig Ó Tuama Everything Belongs by Father Richard Rohr Nomad Podcast The Bible Project Renovaré Podcast Stranger Things Lucifer Here’s what Lisa is… Reading: In the Shelter by Pádraig Ó Tuama and Everything Belongs by Father Richard Rohr Watching: Stranger Things and Lucifer Listening: Nomad Podcast, The Bible Project, and Renovaré Podcast What’s Refreshing: Starting her morning at the gym while worshipping the Lord Snuggle time with Finn, The Bearded Dragon Laying in the sun and listening to the birds Quotes: “It was food to set my mind on what was true” - 27:10 “I was so desperate for Jesus” - 27:47 “The most powerful way to share the gospel is to embody Jesus” - 40:30 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/emma-koch/support