Where does the boundary lie between bad behaviour and outright corruption?  This week Ben wants to understand how corruption and the fight against it are destructive forces in a democracy.  Guests:  Simon Kuper, journalist and author of ‘Good Chaps’ and ‘Chums’Ezequiel González Ocantos, Professor of Comparative & Judicial Politics at Nuffield College, University of Oxford What’s Wrong with Democracy? is produced by Tortoise Media and supported by the Open Society Foundations.  To find out more about Tortoise: Download the Tortoise app - for a listening experience curated by our journalists. Subscribe to Tortoise+ on Apple Podcasts for early access and ad-free content. Become a member and get access to all of Tortoise's premium audio offerings and more. If you want to get in touch with us directly about a story, or tell us more about the stories you want to hear about contact [email protected] Host: Professor Ben Ansell Producers: Ada Barume and Eleanor Biggs Editor: Jasper Corbett Original artwork: Jon Hill | Emma O’Neil Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.