Cuyahoga Valley National Park, located in northeastern Ohio is a breathtaking expanse of natural beauty, rich history, and vibrant wildlife and is unique in its proximity and relationships with surrounding communities/municipalities and its drastic transformation from a place where the river historically caught on fire to a river rich in ecology and opportunities for humans to recreate. Lisa has been superintendent at Cuyahoga Valley since 2021 but has been working at Cuyahoga Valley for almost 25 years, previously serving in a variety of leadership positions and working as a wildlife biologist and her passion for this park is evident in our conversation. Learn about the plans Cuyahoga Valley has for the future, the ways challenges with the scenic railroad were mitigated and resolved and, in the words of the superintendent herself, learn about “the sense of awe [you can] get from a place that just seems ordinary”. Listen for yourself, “because I think you'll be surprised”.