In this episode, Dr. Vanessa Theme Ament, author of The Foley Grail, engages in a lively discussion with composer, trumpeter, and sound designer Daniel Nissenbaum. Moving beyond performative sound in film and television, Vanessa and Daniel get into the sound aspects of today's podcasting, and one of Daniel's most recent podcast projects, Discovering Dad. Often riffing in the spirit of jazz improvisation, the two reflect and trades observations on the relationship between sound design, music, and technology, to share their deeply philosophical takes on these topics. In the end, the best performative sound design brings to life our intrinsic need for stories as our way of making sense of the world, and each other. Welcome to the Wonderful World of Performative Film Sound!