An in studio visits from 4 delightful South Afrinca winemakers began with this incredible conversation with Gavin Slabbert and Josh Raats of Raats Family Winery. 1. The increasing percentage of women winemakers in America inspired a former intern to pursue enology school. 2. Gavin makes an analogy between wine and golf, emphasizing inclusivity. 3. Gavin/Josh’s family winery has been running for 25 years in New Zealand. 4. A unique wine called Mister de Compostela was created by the first qualified black African winemaker in South Africa. ### Podcast Summary In this episode of "Wine Talks with Paul K," co-hosts Paul K and Gavin Slabbert are joined by guest Gavin/Josh to discuss the evolving landscape of the wine industry. They emphasize the increasing presence of women winemakers in America and the importance of breaking down barriers in the traditionally exclusive world of wine. Gavin/Josh, representing a 25-year-old family winery from New Zealand, highlights their commitment to producing bespoke wines that reflect their unique terroir and fostering personal connections with consumers. The conversation delves into the significance of inclusivity, drawing parallels to the world of golf. Paul and Gavin/Josh discuss the rich history and modern challenges of South African wines, noting the progress and potential of varieties like Chenin Blanc and Pinotage. A touching story of the first qualified black African winemaker creating a wine called Mister de Compostela underscores the theme of breaking barriers. The episode wraps up with a call for wine enthusiasts to explore and enjoy wine in their own way, free from intimidation or preconceived notions.