Jarod K. Anderson, poet, author, and podcaster—a.k.a The CryptoNaturalist— joins me to talk about why we write, wrestling with mental health, self v. traditional publishing, and more. There's also a wee poetry reading. You can find out more about Jarod's work including the podcast and Patreon on his website. You can preorder Something in the Woods Loves You directly from Hachette. And you can follow him on Instagram as CryptoNaturalist or Jarod K. Andersen. The book I was trying to remember is Ordinary Grace by William Kent Kreuger. He's written several more. Please support Black, indigenous, queer, trans, and women-owned, local, independent bookstores and occult shops. Transcripts of all episodes are available at witchlitpod.com Support WitchLit by using our affiliate link to purchase books from Bookshop.org or buy us a coffee on Ko-fi  The award-winning books Changing Paths by Yvonne Aburrow and Conjuring the Commonplace by Laine Fuller & Cory Thomas Hutcheson are both available from 1000Volt Press or to order wherever you buy books. My book, Verona Green, is now available in all the usual places.Autographed copies also available from 1000Volt Press.