Lisa Daniel is joined on Word for Word by Danielle Scrimshaw. Danielle is a writer, historian and big fan of lighthouses. Her 2019 essay ‘Be Gay, Do Crime: Or, the Ballad of Catherine and Ellen’ was shortlisted for the Deakin University Nonfiction Prize. Her thesis on queer women’s narratives in Australian history – or the lack thereof – was highly commended by the Australian Queer Archives. Last year she was a finalist for Forty South Magazine’s Van Diemen History Prize 2020-2021. Dani has been published in Voiceworks, Overland, Scum Mag and Archer Magazine. Her latest and first book She and Her Pretty Friend is a joyous look at the history of lesbian and bisexual women in Australia – from convict times, through suffrage and liberation to today. Word for Word is hosted by Lisa Daniel on JOY Media, produced by Ellen Spalding, Spencer Duyker and Dave Samuel.  This episode originally aired on July 15th, 2023. For further information head to the JOY Media webpage, Word for Word podcast page, via Facebook or email Lisa Daniel and the team at Word for Word.