In this episode of XTRAordinary, hosts Teague Egan and Spence sit down with esteemed journalist and author Ernest Scheyder to delve into his compelling book, *The War Below*. The book humanizes everyone involved in the high-stakes world of The Energy Transition, offering a nuanced view of both sides of the argument. Ernest provides an in-depth look at the advocates for lithium and copper mining, who aim to usher in a better world through electric energy, and those opposed, who seek to maintain peace and prevent invasive digging into the earth. They discuss the intricate narratives and significant ramifications of shifting from fossil fuels to renewable energy sources, highlighting how these changes impact global power dynamics and economic stability. Ernest shares his deep insights into the energy industry, offering a unique perspective on the challenges and opportunities that come with this global shift. Beyond the book, the conversation expands to cover Ernest's extensive career in journalism. As a senior correspondent at Reuters, he has reported extensively on the energy sector, mining industry, and the geopolitical implications of energy policies. His experiences and stories from the field provide a rich backdrop to the discussion, shedding light on the critical issues he has covered over the years. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that not only highlights the critical issues surrounding energy and the environment but also provides an intimate look at the life and career of a dedicated journalist. SUBSCRIBE TO XTRAORDINARY: https://www.youtube.com/@XtraordinaryShow FOLLOW XTRAORDINARY: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/xtraordinaryshow Twitter - https://twitter.com/xtraordshow TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@xtraordinaryshow FaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/xtraordinaryshow/ CHECK OUT OUR GUEST - ERNEST SCHEYDER : https://www.reuters.com/authors/ernest-scheyder/ AND HIS BOOK THE WAR BELOW https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-War-Below/Ernest-Scheyder/9781668011805 TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Welcome to XTRAordinary Ernest! 02:28 How Did You Get Into Journalism? 05:10 Switching From Oil & Gas to Renewable Energy 08:29 What IS The Energy Transition? 11:00 The Process of Writing The War Below 13:35 Focusing on Humanizing Issues 16:40 The Rhyolite Ridge Project vs The Flower 18:50 Storytelling as a Journalist 22:40 Teague's Hairdo? 25:30 EnergyX's Pilot Plant in Bolivia 28:25 The Balance Between Old and New Energy 30:10 This is MORE Than Just Electric Vehicles 32:22 The EnergyX Aha Moment 34:55 The Inflation Reduction Act 38:45 Argument for De-Industrialization 41:15 Ernest Runs TEN Marathons 43:40 What is a Book Deal Like? 47:20 The Ban on TikTok & China's International Policies 49:50 Engineering Programs in the United States 53:35 The DRC & Its Problems 57:15 Thank You For Being on the Show Ernie! **Keywords:** Ernest Scheyder, The War Below, Energy Transition, Lithium Mining, Copper Mining, Renewable Energy, Fossil Fuels, Environmental Impact, Geopolitics, Humanizing Stories, Journalism, Reuters, XTRAordinary Podcast.