When we have spiritual experiences with things like worship music, is that the Holy Spirit moving? Or, as Tim Whitaker (The New Evangelicals) claimed in a viral Instagram meme, is it “just the drums”? Can it be both? Tim and Sarah Lane Ritchie return to discuss these ideas, Tim’s experiences as a worship drummer, “spiritual technologies” like worship music, the potential harm of conflating these experiences with “God,” the role of such experiences in the life of faith, and more.  Watch this Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/qMTeohCkEDA Tim's Viral Drums Reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6PhVL6OlDG/?igsh=eDdhZjFoMjI2NjJ1 The New Evangelicals Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-new-evangelicals-podcast/id1557794865 thenewevangelicals.com Sarah's Faculty Page: https://www.templeton.org/team-member/sarah-lane-ritchie-ph-d Sarah's Twitter: @slaneritchie ___________________________________________ Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024 Use Code ReturnofYHP for $50 off your ticket! ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: [email protected] YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices