In this episode, Jan-Claas Dajka interviews Prof Kimberley Peters, Professor for Marine Governance at HIFMB. She gives us insights into her vision for her newly formed Marine Governance group at the institute and dives (pun intended) into her most recent book publication, the Routledge Handbook of Ocean Space. Through that, she discusses the value of publishing books vs. papers. She also opens up about the role of failure and fortune in an academic career and enriches the conversation with personal anecdotes from her life. A true storyteller at work!   Intro and outro supported by the wonderful voice of Dr. Kimberley Peters and sound effects from quicksounds.com and pixabay.com.