At Gruffalo's, a dive bar known for its burgers and beer, Sam and Michael discuss the nature of angels and their roles in ancient history. Michael reveals that angels were initially guardians for Ra, the Egyptian sun god, but their purpose evolved over time, especially as Ra became increasingly powerful and malevolent. The story includes a significant conflict involving Ra, resulting in only a few angels surviving. Michael also shares insights into Ismael's origins, connecting him to biblical figures Cain and Abel, and explains how Cain became immortal through consuming Ismael's body, thereby linking their fates and powers. Hosted by Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.