In today's interview, I talk to one of my dear friends from my time at Franciscan University, Kateri Leonard. Kateri is a southern lady, a social worker and an incredible woman of God. We talk about how she has come to view her job as her vocation and how working with the older generation has taught her to love more fully. We also talk all about self-care, what is it, how to implement it in a balanced and healthy way, and ultimately we talk about how we are called to embrace our humanity as Christ embraced his. We break down what it means to embrace our humanity, with all of the sufferings and joys it entails. This conversation is a little longer than previous episodes but it was such a fruitful one and I hope you enjoy it! Here are the books we mention in this episode: Reed of God by Caryll HouselanderCaptivating by John & Stasi EldredgePoverty of Spirit by Johannes Baptist Metz