In this episode, Tom Bassett and Andrew Ermon discuss the importance of being more iterative in roles such as consulting and software development. They emphasize the need to embrace risk and ambiguity, and to trust the iterative process. They highlight the benefits of using the Salesforce platform for iterative development due to its declarative functionality. They also explore how being iterative interacts with different roles, such as admins, developers, and consultants. The conversation emphasizes the importance of feedback, constant improvement, and letting go of perfection. They provide tips for developing an iterative mindset and building the habit of continuous improvement.