In this conversation, the Coach Nick and Coach Amanda are joined by Leah Avery and Winnie Lizardo to discuss various topics related to physical therapy and recovery for Part 4 of the Need or Nah Series. They cover the effectiveness of recovery tools such as massage, compression boots, and Theragun, and also discuss the use of cold therapy and icing. They also highlight the dangers of overtraining and the importance of listening to your body. The episode concludes with the guests sharing their personal experiences and offer advice on how to incorporate rest into training programs. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the significance of rest in optimizing performance and preventing injuries. ----------------------------------------- (00:00) Introduction and Guests (03:10) Need or Nah: Recovery Tools (09:31) Need or Nah: Cold Therapy and Icing (14:39) Need or Nah: Saran Wrap and Voltaren (21:09) Need or Nah: Balance Training (25:31) Need or Nah: In person PT sessions (35:13) Need or Nah Insight on Life Stress for PT (39:29) Need or Nah: Total Rest When Injured (44:44) Need or Nah: Rest Days (49:23)Interview Questions --------------------------------------- Leah has been a practicing PT over a decade which is also when she began here running career. Prior to that she was a competitive swimmer starting at the age of 8 and retired her senior year of college. During her career she was a D1 All-American and competed at the Olympic Trials. Leah’s athletic career was anything but linear and she faced many hardships which originally lead her to a career in physical therapy. However, after starting her running journey, it was clear she had an unhealthy relationship with athletics. Her mission is to help runners reach their potential in a healthy manner by treating the person, not just the runner. And help them understand that running adds value to our lives but it is not what makes us valuable. Winnie Lizardo is a physical therapist, certified strength and conditioning specialist, and certified run coach. Once a 2-sport DIII athlete (soccer & basketball), Winnie has always loved sports, exercise, and movement. After a short stint as a HS teacher, Winnie left the classroom to attend NYU where she became a Doctor of Physical Therapy. She has worked with athletes of all levels and most orthopedic conditions. After having 2 kids, Winnie found the running community and has shifted her focus to helping peripartum athletes elevate their fitness while caring for tiny humans. Her favorite strength training includes lifting her kids as weights and her favorite distance is the half marathon! Winnie - ⁠Instagram⁠ Leah - ⁠Instagram⁠ Work with them - https://www.trainsmartrunstrong.com/ ----------------------------------- Contact us: Amanda - ⁠@amanda_katzz⁠ Nick - ⁠@nklastava⁠ Buy Me A Coffee Email - [email protected]