In this episode, Apogy founder Jessica Crow speaks with April and Wil Jackson, both of whom participated in Apogy’s online Change Management Training and Certification Program, which included coaching with Jessica.  April and Wil, who both retired from the U.S. Air Force after more than 20 years of service, have certifications in change management as well as project management. They are active members of the Project Management Institute’s Pikes Peak Regional Chapter, where April also serves on the board. Currently, Wil is the director of contracts for Boecore, LLC, an aerospace and defense engineering company that specializes in software solutions, systems engineering, cybersecurity, enterprise networks, and mission operations. April is a program analyst for Dynetics, a Leidos Company, where she provides program management and logistical support to the U.S. Army’s Space and Missile Defense Command’s 1st Space Brigade. During this fun and impactful conversation, April and Wil discuss their motivation to get change management training and how the experience gave them not only a solid foundation in the practice, but also resulted in several powerful mindset shifts that led to positive changes at work and within their professional communities. Other highlights from the conversation include: Learning how change management is not a linear process; How to connect with others so they are more open and willing to change; Why you should not let “good get in the way of great” if you want to make progress; and, How being a good leader of others starts with being a good leader of yourself. If you are curious about change management training, want to be a better leader at work, or want to experience more on-the-job fulfillment - do not miss this episode!