So what do former Fire Chief Greg Mullins and Australian Cricket Captain Pat Cummins have in common? They both want action on climate change and they have both worked with Amanda McKenzie, CEO of Australia’s Climate Council, to build their strategy. Amanda is a climate communicator who has worked to catalyse different communities of people affected by climate change so they can become powerful climate advocates. She talks with us about her approach to climate communications and how long term engaged work with a variety of affected communities has changed the public debate on climate in Australia.  You can find out more about the climate council here - https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/  For more on ChangeMakers check us out:  Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org  On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/  On Twitter - @changemakers99 or @amandatatts  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.