In this episode we visit one of the world's epicentres of synth exploration, and speak with one of the world's most influential synth pioneers. We learn about M.E.S.S.'s mission to make music accessible to everyone, the end of genre and the beginning of the future of sound. We talk to Suzanne Ciani about how she invented a new vocabulary of music, her experiences of gender discrimination and overcoming barriers and what she's teaching to, and learning from, a new generation of artists. We listen to Sui Zhen, a new generation of artist pushing electronic music into new territory as a form of musical and self-expression.