Clover Hogan is a 20-year-old climate activist, researcher on eco-anxiety, and the founder of Force of Nature.  In this Podcast, Clover Hogan talks with Caroline Hickman about how depth psychology transformed her approach to her activism, the role of holding despair and optimism in the same breath, and her path to igniting agency in a diversity of audiences - from Wall Street bankers, to 11-year-old students in the classroom.