In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, guest host Adam Becker, Director of Legal Operations at Cockroach Labs, chats with seasoned legal management and coaching professional, Natalie Loeb, Founder and CEO of LOEB Leadership.  The discussion highlights the importance of wellness in the legal profession which is critical for an industry know for high standards and a culture of perfectionism.  Adam and Natalie examine the impact of the billable hour on lawyer well-being, the challenges in seeking help, and the widespread issue of burnout.   Natalie emphasizes the importance of self-care, leadership modeling wellness practices, and the need for systemic support within organizations.   If you are looking to up your all-around work-life wellness game, this conversation is for you! Enjoy!