Carilu discusses why business growth is slow for everything but AI and cybersecurity, and her belief that many players are fatigued after a long drive to improve efficiency during what she calls a "B2B Tech Recession."

Lynne discusses the importance of students learning technical and theoretical skills along with the "harder to teach" softer skills like "how to get stuff done," the differences between Millennials and Gen Z, and why core conceptual classes still matter.