In this conversation, we explore the distinction between “fixing” people’s mental health and building systems and institutions that don’t cause harm in the first place. We are joined by Wizdom Powell, a psychologist, tenured professor, and nationally recognized expert on racial trauma, healing, and health equity. She is now the chief purpose officer of Headspace, the provider of the world’s most accessible, comprehensive digital mental health platform. We peel back the curtain on Black masculinity and medical distrust and get into the heart of what’s needed to create more equitable health care systems. In this episode, we reestablish that evidence is more than just data on a page, it’s lived experience too. To learn more about Evidence In Action and the Urban Institute please visit Urban.org/evidence-action-podcast.