Bob Pulver chats with AI expert Daan van Rossum, CEO and co-founder of FlexOS, about the future of work and the role of AI. They discuss the challenges and opportunities of adopting AI tools in the workplace, the importance of employee autonomy and agency, and the need for training and guidance on using AI ethically. They also touch on the impact of remote work and the consumerization of IT. The conversation highlights the need for companies to embrace AI as a new coworker and to foster a culture of trust and collaboration. Bob and Daan explore the future of AI and its impact on work and productivity. They discuss the role of AI in different industries and the need for interoperability among AI agents. The conversation emphasizes the importance of responsible AI adoption and the need for companies to develop their own AI solutions. It also highlights the potential of AI to reduce tedious tasks and increase employee engagement. They conclude the discussion by encouraging companies to start their AI journey and evolve alongside AI technology. Keywords future of work, AI adoption, employee autonomy, ethical AI, remote work, consumerization of IT, trust and collaboration, AI, future, work, productivity, interoperability, responsible AI, adoption, toil, employee engagement Takeaways AI adoption in the workplace requires a balance between quantitative and qualitative approaches to evaluating and selecting AI solutions. Companies should view AI as a new coworker and focus on creating a culture of trust and collaboration with employees. Training and guidance on using AI ethically and responsibly are crucial for successful AI integration. The consumerization of IT and the rise of shadow IT highlight the need for companies to be agile and responsive to employee needs and preferences. The future of work requires a shift in mindset from productivity-focused metrics to a focus on autonomy, agency, and meaningful work. AI is a powerful tool that can enhance productivity and reduce toil in the workplace. Companies should consider developing their own AI solutions to leverage their unique data and gain a competitive advantage. Responsible AI adoption requires a people-centric approach and a focus on ethics and transparency. AI has the potential to increase employee engagement and satisfaction by automating mundane tasks and allowing more time for strategic work. Companies that embrace AI early and foster a culture of experimentation and learning will have a significant advantage in the future. Sound Bites "This is not software, right? This is not software in the sense that, software was always something that you could install or use in the cloud and it had a button." "You can't just look at historical patterns of decisions and say, well, I see, I know what you're going to do. So I'll just take care of it. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, that's not exactly how it works." "If there was ever an age for autonomy and agency with employees, it's now." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Flex OS and the Mission of Creating a Happier Future of Work 02:14 Evaluating and Reviewing AI Solutions: Balancing Quantitative and Qualitative Approaches 05:22 The Impact of AI on Work and the Need for Trust and Collaboration 09:09 The Challenges of AI Adoption and the Role of HR in Guiding Employees 13:35 The Rise of Shadow IT and the Importance of Agility in IT 31:08 The Future of AI and Its Impact on Work and Productivity 32:05 The Need for Interoperability Among AI Agents 32:35 The Importance of Responsible AI Adoption 33:15 Reducing Toil and Increasing Employee Engagement with AI 34:09 Starting the AI Journey and Evolving Alongside AI Technology Daan van Rossum: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daanvanrossum/ FlexOS: https://www.flexos.work/ Lead With AI: https://www.flexos.work/leadwithai