My guest this week is Jonathan Church (@jondavidchurch), a chartered financial analyst, government economist, and author. His recent books include Reinventing Racism: Why White Fragility is the wrong way to think about racial inequality, and Virtue in an age of identity politics: A stoic approach to social justice. From my perspective his works aim to provide substantive critiques of current approaches to marxism and social justice, or “Wokeness” my term not his, while also criticizing the way that anti-woke activists have overshot the mark.. Jonathan's Website: https://www.jonathandavidchurch.com/ Convocation: Aaron's void brain Music by GW Rodriguez Sibling Pods: Philosophers in Space: https://0gphilosophy.libsyn.com/ Filmed Live Musicals Pod: https://www.filmedlivemusicals.com/thepodcast.html Support us at Patreon.com/EmbraceTheVoid If you enjoy the show, please Like and Review us on your pod app, especially iTunes. It really helps! Recent appearances: Had several recent appearances you should check out! QED Skepticamp talk! Decoding a (((moral panic))) conspiracy meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKGA8-Da1E I was on The Podcaster's Guide to The Conspiracy talking about philosophy of conspiracism: https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-7ra6d-130e8e8?utm_campaign=au_share_ep&utm_medium=dlink&utm_source=au_share I was on Dan Norton's YouTube show discussing free will and luck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dZx_VD54pg Next Episode: TBD!