Thank you to The Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard Kennedy School for supporting this episode. Visit the link below to learn more about research, ideas, and leadership programs for a more peaceful world: https://www.belfercenter.org/ ------------------- Evil and atrocity exist in this world. Therefore, the US must overcome its political dysfunction—which Karen Donfried aptly describes as a "soap opera"—before it loses the trust of its allies entirely and can only stand by as the world descends into chaos. #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #KarenDonfried ------------------- About Luminary: Karen Donfried is a Belfer Center Senior Fellow and Former Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs. She served as a special assistant to the President and Senior Director, European Affairs, National Security Council under Obama’s presidency. In 2003-05 during Bush’s presidency, she worked for the US Department of State's Policy Planning staff, handling the Europe portfolio. About the Host: Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022—2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. ------------------- Earn a Master of Public Policy degree and be Indonesia's future narrator. More info: [email protected] https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id https://wa.me/628111522504 Visit and subscribe:  @SGPPIndonesia  @Endgame_Clips