Thank you to The Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard Kennedy School for supporting this episode. Visit the link below to learn more about research, ideas, and leadership programs for a more peaceful world: https://www.belfercenter.org/ -------------------- Among the myriad trials that besiege humanity, one stands as the most urgent: the climate crisis. This dilemma, unlike any other, comes with a stringent deadline (literally). Should our efforts falter, the repercussions could be catastrophic, imperiling the lives of billions. Yet, in the realm of discourse, a significant debate unfolds around ideology. The sentiment echoes, "The climate conundrum demands a democratic solution." Such a stance, while noble, entails a temporal compromise, for democracy is a process that thrives on deliberation. So, where do we find the confluence? In this dialogue, Ely Sandler poses a profound question, one that compels us to reflect deeply: must we set aside the ego of democracy to save ourselves from the existential threat of climate change? #Endgame #GitaWirjawan #ElySandler ------------------- About the Narrator: Ely Sandler is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School and a partner at the Article Six Group, advising governments on climate policy and developing large-scale clean energy infrastructure. In 2022, he co-authored and presented a paper at COP27, proposing a new model for cross-border investment based on Article 6 of the Paris Agreement. Following this, Ely was asked to lead a World Bank workstream to study and implement this new approach, and he is now collaborating with governments, investors, and international organizations to design large-scale pilot projects as part of the COP28 agenda. About the Host: Gita Wirjawan is an Indonesian entrepreneur, educator, and Honorary Professor of Politics and International Relations at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Nottingham. He is also a visiting scholar at The Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center (APARC) at Stanford University (2022—2024) and a fellow at Harvard Kennedy School's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs. ------------------- Notes from this episode: https://sgpp.me/eps191notes ------------------- Earn a Master of Public Policy degree and be Indonesia's future narrator. More info: [email protected] https://admissions.sgpp.ac.id | https://wa.me/628111522504 Visit and subscribe: @SGPPIndonesia | @Endgame_Clips