Guest: Andrew Bialecki, CEO of Klaviyo Whenever the marketing platform Klaviyo is hiring, says CEO Andrew Bialecki, “we sort of don't care so much what skills you have.” Instead, the company looks for “high slope” individuals who are curious and able to continually learn new things. “A big turnoff for me is [when] somebody says, ‘Oh, well, I was never good at that when I was growing up,’” Andrew explains. “You know, ‘I'm not a good writer’ or ‘I'm not good with numbers.’ And it's like, well, OK, but anybody can learn anything.” In this episode, Andrew and Joubin discuss WeCrashed, Paul Graham, vertical integration, automating sales, Ed Hallen, The Talent Code by Daniel Coyle, child prodigies, interview questions, public speaking and decompression, taking ownership, hiring engineers, burnout, and productivity habits. Chapters: (00:51) - Klaviyo's office (02:36) - Attention to detail (06:32) - Big decisions (12:23) - What Klaviyo does (14:50) - Its 2023 IPO (20:35) - The founding story (25:06) - Nature or nurture? (28:47) - Science and hockey (31:02) - Hiring for slope (33:57) - Extroversion (37:00) - Culture as product (39:53) - Owning your success (46:24) - “The algorithms of humanity” (50:55) - Why Andrew runs (52:35) - Sports psychology for startups (55:34) - Richard Feynman (58:27) - Who Klaviyo is hiring (59:20) - What “grit” means to Andrew Links: Connect with Andrew TwitterLinkedInConnect with Joubin TwitterLinkedInEmail: [email protected] Learn more about Kleiner Perkins This episode was edited by Eric Johnson from LightningPod.fm