Do you remember the first time as a female you were objectified?  I do. I was 12 and he was in his early 20s. It brought up mixed feelings of being immediately uncomfortable and self-conscious, but also flattered by the attention? Whether it’s fielding unwanted advances, or running in a new city with pepper spray in hand, or being the solo female voice outnumbered in a leadership room - these instances aren’t unique.  Women reading even just those examples will go “oh yeah, been there.” But, for some reason to men it is still a foreign concept that we have different obstacles in this world than they may be facing.   I initially had the title of this theme “Women vs Men” but I realized I don’t think we are opposing forces.  A better thought is “how can we invite men into our experiences better?” Join me and my friend Janelle, a female entrepreneur who founded Volara, an artist management company working to create intentional spaces for females in the music industry, as we talk a bit about our own experiences navigating this world as modern women. If you’re a female, I think you’ll likely feel validated and less alone in your experience and if you’re a male I think you’ll walk away with some better handles and tools to support the females in your life.  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/haven-the-podcast/support